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I think my smile is stuck to my face hahaha
Great article.

Joss - how I love thee.

God, I do love a long form, well-crafted sarcastic rant. It gives me a warm feeling inside, like Christmas. Or, like Christmas is supposed to feel to those that don't loathe Christmas.

I have to admit that was interesting. I'm very curious why they have to remake a seriously stupid movie that was seriously stupid when it was made all those years ago, when there are great books out there to be made into movies. I even have one in mind (betcha didn't see that one coming). Meg by Steve Alten. This movie has been an ongoing process for a while. Now if someone can just get it off the ground. Any ideas? Not including the idiots that think remaking "Buffy" would be oh so exciting.

Locke, why did you have to go and depress me like that?

Also, you should have mentioned Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along blog!

You are SO right, Jason! I completely FORGOT to mention Dr. Horrible! I had intended all winter to write a piece about it in particular and never got to it.

For those of you who don't know, Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog is a fantastic short musical film that Whedon wrote and directed out of creative frustration during the writers' strike back in '07-'08. It stars Neil Patrick Harris, Felicia Day, and Firefly's Nathan Fillion and is, like so much of Whedon's stuff, both hilarious and heartbreaking.

If you haven't already seen it, check it out here:

http://drhorrible.com/mushortio.html

and learn more about it here:

http://drhorrible.com/

It is very much with the goodness.

What a let down. I was really hoping they would bring Buffy back to TV or at least a movie. I have missed it. Thanks for the heads up on the evil plot to remasticate the original movie. I will make a point of skipping it.

Of course, there is the possibility that Kuzui's evil (i.e. greedy) plan will fail. At this point she has a production company that WANTS to make a Whedon-less Buffy--they still don't have a studio, and even then, as we all know (heck, as JOSS well knows) so many things can still go wrong.

Or go right. My impression is that Whedon was in talks all winter with Kuzui about doing something with a big-screen Buffy and that things fell apart over creative differences. (I'm guessing--just guessing--that the phrase "it needs to be more like Twilight!!" came up more than once...)

It's always possible that some day Whedon could return to the project. At this point, this comment, to EW's Michael Ausiello, is his only--very diplomatic--statement on the new project: "I hope it's cool." (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/05/a-joss-less-buf.html)

@Melissa - that was the best comment I've read in weeks! Thanks! (and no, that isn't sarcastic).

I'm one of those strange people that loved the original Buffy movie but could never really get into the TV Show (can't stand SMG). I don't really think a reboot is necessary (it really wasn't THAT good to begin with), but I guess since everything else is being remade these days, why not. I doubt I'll spend any $ on it though.

Who among us would like to gently but firmly school Kristen on the mega-genius that is the BVS (and Angel) series? We can take turns, if you like...

Thing is, Kristen, most hard-core Buffy fans can't really stand SMG either. ("Smidge" is NOT a term of endearment.) She does fine in the series, she plays the part well, but she's only truly GREAT in a few key moments over the course of seven seasons (and most of them involve her crying--must be those soap-opera roots).

No, it's the REST of the cast that REALLY makes the show sparkle--Anthony Stewart Head, Allyson Hennigan, James Marsters, even folks who aren't the best of actors outside the Buffyverse--sorry, Nicky Brendon and Charisma Carpenter!--are stellar on the show. And I'm sure any of us fans could go on all day listing other Buffy regulars we love (Seth Green! Emma Caulfield!).

But mostly, it's the writing that will hook you and keep you. We're not kidding--Joss is a man-god in schlumpy human form! And he populated his writing staff with other little man- and woman-godlings...

I will say this--if we convince you to give Buffy another shot, Kristen, be patient with the first half-season (season 1's 12 eps) -- like most shows, Buffy took a season to really find it's groove.

But by season two (the Buffy-Angel tragic love tale) and season three (Faith and the Mayor) things were hitting amazing heights. (As for season 4... er... well... every show has it's low points... season 5 is a fine return to form, and then things get a bit more uneven in seasons 6 and 7... but even the 'bad' or 'off' seasons have their gems.)

Wow Locke, what a convincing argument! 7 seasons though? How the heck will I manage that with my existing TV addiction schedule? I guess it is summer and I can squeeze it in somewhere. BTW, my name is KristIn with an I, not an E. No worries, everyone seems to do that. I blame my parents.

I blame your parents, too, Kristin.

Says the guy who's parents named him "Locke"

I tried to start re-watching Buffy and Angel a few years ago, but then got side-tracked by trying to re-watch The Wire, which in turn got side-tracked by trying to re-watch The West Wing. Now I also have two seasons of Friday Night Lights to catch up on... and I keep swearing some day I'll give all of Lost another shot...

Not to mention the never ending stream of cheesy drive-in dvds to review for redblog.

It's probably best if I just never leave my apartment again.

I don't understand how anyone with a brain and a soul could watch the "Buffy" and Angel series and not completely fall in love with the characters that Joss Whedon created. He is an absolute genius. I would love to see anything that picked up where these shows left off. As long as Joss was writing it. No one else should be allowed to touch HIS work.

Exactly, Melissa. Though at least to the Kuzuis' credit, they are not going to mess with Joss's characters--no Scooby Gang, no Angel, no Giles or Spike... It would be a complete reboot with JUST the title character. Of course, who wants to see THAT?

I think this is some brinksmanship going on--my guess is the Kuzuis want Whedon involved--they know his name is the mark of quality and will keep the fans happy. However, my guess is that the kind of Buffy film they want to make (a cheap rip-off of Twilight... which, of course itself is a cheap rip-off of Buffy) did not appeal to Joss and those "creative differences" drove him away.

So now the Kuzuis are saying "well, we'll make a Buffy film WITHOUT you," in hopes that this will pull Whedon back to the project. (The Kuzuis keep saying in interviews that they hope Whedon will come back to the project.) Whedon's only public response: "I hope it's cool."

Locke, what are your thoughts on Dollhouse, his current series? Have you seen it? Is it brilliant? I've heard it kind of sucks for something that's his. Of course, I heard this on Penny Arcade, so...

I skipped Dollhouse during it's airing (it's a long story involving Tivo, the big switch to digital broadcasting, my cable company, and the fact I kept Tivo-ing Friday Night Lights, even though I'm two seasons behind on IT). I know that's blasphemous given all I've said about my love for Whedon, but it seemed sort of humorless...

However, I've been catching up watching Dollhouse via the Interwebs and have seen the first five episodes. It's uneven (but so was Buffy not only its first season, but really all through its entire run--and the first and second seasons of Angel are a mess) and it IS mostly humorless (again, so was Angel it's first season). But so far about every other episode works as pretty decent mystery/thriller TV.

There are lots of Whedon-isms (and Whedon actors), there's a Big Bad arc building, and for the most part it's entertaining and engaging. What I've seen so far is NOT Whedon Genius... but then, as I said, neither were the first seasons of Buffy and Angel. (Only Firefly dazzled right out of the gate.)

So I'm definitely interested in seeing the rest of the season (perhaps someone else here can speak to it before I get it finished) and then the new season next fall.

I ask because I had purchased season 1 on iTunes solely based on his prior work. I never saw much of Buffy or Angel. That was all before I even knew who the guy was. (My bais against them was mostly because of the network they were on) Also, every Whedon fan I know personally, became a fan shortly before Serenity due to rampant internet buzz.

Well, Firefly (and Serenity) is a great way to get a taste of really good Whedon without investing hundreds of hours in watching Buffy and Angel (at least not YET...). Firefly is pretty great all the (very short) way through, whereas Buffy and Angel, naturally, have some off episodes (and entire 'off' seasons)... But then, Buffy and Angel also hit MUCH greater emotional highs, numerous times. They really are his masterpieces, flaws and all...

You're a satiric genius!

Hmmm, via TV Overmind:

http://www.tvovermind.com/tv-news/buffys-coming-back/5625

(thanks for the Twitter tip, @WhedonFanNews)

So an animated Buffy TV show, not based on the original Buffy kids's show idea from a decade ago, but on the "Season Eight" comics currently out? With at least SOME Joss involvement?

(It's not clearly exactly WHICH Buffy comics would be used--there have been numerous Buffy comic series over the years--but I'm guessing Season 8 as that is the most cohesive, the best-written, the most LIKE the original series in tone and plot, AND the one Joss had the biggest creative hand in.)

(Ironically, a recent issue of the comic WAS drawn, script- and art-wise from the original animated Buffy concept.)

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